Comments on: Glasgow Haskell Compiler no longer suitable for teaching http://thetarpit.org/2015/ghc-teaching "Now I feel like I know less about what that blog is about than I did before." Wed, 15 Apr 2026 04:32:48 +0000 http://thetarpit.org hourly 1 By: spyked http://thetarpit.org/2015/ghc-teaching#comment-4457 spyked Thu, 17 Aug 2023 17:20:42 +0000 http://wp.thetarpit.org/2015/ghc-teaching#comment-4457 Ahahahah, sure, all the awful code at least. Ahahahah, sure, all the awful code at least.

]]> By: Cel Mihanie http://thetarpit.org/2015/ghc-teaching#comment-4452 Cel Mihanie Thu, 17 Aug 2023 11:59:00 +0000 http://wp.thetarpit.org/2015/ghc-teaching#comment-4452 Well, who needs a language to be teachable to humanses anymore? All the code is gonna be done from now on by ChatGPT, right? Right??? :V :V :V Well, who needs a language to be teachable to humanses anymore? All the code is gonna be done from now on by ChatGPT, right? Right??? :V :V :V

]]> By: spyked http://thetarpit.org/2015/ghc-teaching#comment-4443 spyked Tue, 15 Aug 2023 21:40:35 +0000 http://wp.thetarpit.org/2015/ghc-teaching#comment-4443 This ship has sailed long ago, but meanwhile some folks calling themselves <a href="https://www.simplehaskell.org/" rel="nofollow">The Simple Haskell Initiative</a> go about discussing the subject from the very same perspective that I did back eight years ago. Haskell is a very nice tool for study/prototyping, placing mathematics, formal logic and programming where they each belong. It is certainly interesting for studying design patterns, but the more advanced topics are best left to the advanced folks. In other words, let 'em wank on <a href="http://thetarpit.org/2017/reversing-lists" rel="nofollow">category theory</a> ad nauseam, meanwhile keep the basic subset of the language (and the mind-boggingly complex compiler) out of harm so that noobs can actually learn how to use the thing. For that, Haskell98 is more than sufficient. If your language can't be properly taught -- and C has a greater track record on that than any of the new kids, yes, time if nothing else is on the side of C, just look at Linux -- then it ain't worth using. I'm looking at you, Rust. This ship has sailed long ago, but meanwhile some folks calling themselves The Simple Haskell Initiative go about discussing the subject from the very same perspective that I did back eight years ago.

Haskell is a very nice tool for study/prototyping, placing mathematics, formal logic and programming where they each belong. It is certainly interesting for studying design patterns, but the more advanced topics are best left to the advanced folks. In other words, let 'em wank on category theory ad nauseam, meanwhile keep the basic subset of the language (and the mind-boggingly complex compiler) out of harm so that noobs can actually learn how to use the thing. For that, Haskell98 is more than sufficient.

If your language can't be properly taught -- and C has a greater track record on that than any of the new kids, yes, time if nothing else is on the side of C, just look at Linux -- then it ain't worth using. I'm looking at you, Rust.

]]> By: OpenBSD, or how I review software projects « The Tar Pit http://thetarpit.org/2015/ghc-teaching#comment-3335 OpenBSD, or how I review software projects « The Tar Pit Sat, 29 Oct 2022 17:27:24 +0000 http://wp.thetarpit.org/2015/ghc-teaching#comment-3335 [...] ask, I am more than accustomed to the so-called functional style of programming since my days of Haskell and I have an entire category dedicated to Lisp over here. So then I have to ask: why Rust and not [...] [...] ask, I am more than accustomed to the so-called functional style of programming since my days of Haskell and I have an entire category dedicated to Lisp over here. So then I have to ask: why Rust and not [...]

]]> By: On the hellpits of abstraction « The Tar Pit http://thetarpit.org/2015/ghc-teaching#comment-306 On the hellpits of abstraction « The Tar Pit Mon, 20 Apr 2020 11:04:48 +0000 http://wp.thetarpit.org/2015/ghc-teaching#comment-306 [...] programming" is teh shiznit, and... and what, you fucking losers? You've managed to completely ruin a bunch of otherwise respectable paradigms of thinking, and your software still sucks. So I guess [...] [...] programming" is teh shiznit, and... and what, you fucking losers? You've managed to completely ruin a bunch of otherwise respectable paradigms of thinking, and your software still sucks. So I guess [...]

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