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	<title>Comments on: Academic hogwash: an empirical study thereof</title>
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	<description>"Now I feel like I know less about what that blog is about than I did before."</description>
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		<title>By: spyked</title>
		<link>http://thetarpit.org/2016/academic-hogwash#comment-7803</link>
		<dc:creator>spyked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2026 18:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, to be fair: such groups are always semipermeable, in the sense that they rely on some sort of approach to sift the good folks from the idiots, erring towards leaving some of the good folks out just for the sake of not letting any idiots in. This may be unfair or whatever, but alas, time is a very costly resource, and it would be quite a shame for an idiot to waste everybody else's time, say, during a conference, be it academic or otherwise.

My problem isn't that academics do that, it's that some, maybe the large majority thereof, do it with nothing to show for it. Seriously, I don't remember reading any relevant paper from a Thomson-endorsed journal or conference in the last decade, and trust me, I've read quite a lot of them in the first half of it. Maybe it's just my bias towards the computing sciences and they're doing quite fine in natural sciences or the various fields of engineering, I don't know.

The (perhaps honest) counter to this would be that likely institutions such as ACM and IEEE have already been corrupted by idiots -- frankly, I myself think that's just how &lt;a href="http://thetarpit.org/2026/on-perversion" rel="nofollow"&gt;these things usually go&lt;/a&gt;. On the other hand, I've met a few IEEE fellows in my field who for the better or worse manage to move things, albeit slowly. The alternative to so-called standards is everybody rolling their own and no one getting to talk to anyone else, which is (IMO) way worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, to be fair: such groups are always semipermeable, in the sense that they rely on some sort of approach to sift the good folks from the idiots, erring towards leaving some of the good folks out just for the sake of not letting any idiots in. This may be unfair or whatever, but alas, time is a very costly resource, and it would be quite a shame for an idiot to waste everybody else's time, say, during a conference, be it academic or otherwise.</p>
<p>My problem isn't that academics do that, it's that some, maybe the large majority thereof, do it with nothing to show for it. Seriously, I don't remember reading any relevant paper from a Thomson-endorsed journal or conference in the last decade, and trust me, I've read quite a lot of them in the first half of it. Maybe it's just my bias towards the computing sciences and they're doing quite fine in natural sciences or the various fields of engineering, I don't know.</p>
<p>The (perhaps honest) counter to this would be that likely institutions such as ACM and IEEE have already been corrupted by idiots -- frankly, I myself think that's just how <a href="http://thetarpit.org/2026/on-perversion" rel="nofollow">these things usually go</a>. On the other hand, I've met a few IEEE fellows in my field who for the better or worse manage to move things, albeit slowly. The alternative to so-called standards is everybody rolling their own and no one getting to talk to anyone else, which is (IMO) way worse.</p>
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		<title>By: On science &#171; The Tar Pit</title>
		<link>http://thetarpit.org/2016/academic-hogwash#comment-5258</link>
		<dc:creator>On science &#171; The Tar Pit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Aug 2024 16:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] convenient too, because then our dear scientist can produce more science to science the science and advance the advancement, isn't [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Against the direction in Romanian culture today, translated and annotated &#171; The Tar Pit</title>
		<link>http://thetarpit.org/2016/academic-hogwash#comment-4224</link>
		<dc:creator>Against the direction in Romanian culture today, translated and annotated &#171; The Tar Pit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 May 2023 14:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Academic.&#160;&#8617; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Lost Tools of Learning, annotated &#171; The Tar Pit</title>
		<link>http://thetarpit.org/2016/academic-hogwash#comment-4147</link>
		<dc:creator>The Lost Tools of Learning, annotated &#171; The Tar Pit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 May 2023 14:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is precisely how Romanians (among, I suppose, others) understood academia, for example. Step one: develop a superficial understanding, say, of distributed systems; step two: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Stories from the smelly pits of pantsuit internets; in today's episode: Iu Da &#171; The Tar Pit</title>
		<link>http://thetarpit.org/2016/academic-hogwash#comment-277</link>
		<dc:creator>Stories from the smelly pits of pantsuit internets; in today's episode: Iu Da &#171; The Tar Pit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2020 14:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to challenge this: I like him because he's done more for the field of sociology than the Romanian academia managed to these past two supposedly illustrious decades of great heights of science. Yes, he [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to challenge this: I like him because he's done more for the field of sociology than the Romanian academia managed to these past two supposedly illustrious decades of great heights of science. Yes, he [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 2019 in review &#171; The Tar Pit</title>
		<link>http://thetarpit.org/2016/academic-hogwash#comment-208</link>
		<dc:creator>2019 in review &#171; The Tar Pit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2020 16:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I might as well add here that from all the things that I spent my time doing in the pits of academia, I mostly miss teaching. Granted, the teaching in that environment was, and I expect still is today [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I might as well add here that from all the things that I spent my time doing in the pits of academia, I mostly miss teaching. Granted, the teaching in that environment was, and I expect still is today [...]</p>
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		<title>By: A solution to the largest-of-seven FFACalc puzzle &#171; The Tar Pit</title>
		<link>http://thetarpit.org/2016/academic-hogwash#comment-67</link>
		<dc:creator>A solution to the largest-of-seven FFACalc puzzle &#171; The Tar Pit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2019 11:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] my break from writing (anything else other than academic hogwash) has left a visible negative mark on the quality thereof, so writing anything at all stemming from [...]</description>
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		<title>By: On the future of computing hardware &#171; The Tar Pit</title>
		<link>http://thetarpit.org/2016/academic-hogwash#comment-40</link>
		<dc:creator>On the future of computing hardware &#171; The Tar Pit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2019 10:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] faster, stronger material takes its place. Which I kind of doubt, given that science is also in a period of stagnation, and that is putting it very [...]</description>
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		<title>By: On security &#171; The Tar Pit</title>
		<link>http://thetarpit.org/2016/academic-hogwash#comment-38</link>
		<dc:creator>On security &#171; The Tar Pit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2019 10:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The reader must remember that PhD degrees don't hold the same value as they did, say, fifty years ago. This is mainly due to causes of academic hogwash.&#160;&#8617; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Further on the myth of "software engineering" &#171; The Tar Pit</title>
		<link>http://thetarpit.org/2016/academic-hogwash#comment-37</link>
		<dc:creator>Further on the myth of "software engineering" &#171; The Tar Pit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2019 10:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] wanted to make sure that this essay would get rejected from any respectable academic venue out there, so I made the abstract as abstract as possible, without however stripping it of its [...]</description>
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