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	<title>Comments on: Decoupling MP-WP post editing from the WWW interface</title>
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		<title>By: Footnote callback tooltips for MP-WP thetarpit Markdown plugin &#171; The Tar Pit</title>
		<link>http://thetarpit.org/2019/decoupling-mp-wp-post-editing-from-the-www-interface#comment-259</link>
		<dc:creator>Footnote callback tooltips for MP-WP thetarpit Markdown plugin &#171; The Tar Pit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Feb 2020 09:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: spyked</title>
		<link>http://thetarpit.org/2019/decoupling-mp-wp-post-editing-from-the-www-interface#comment-144</link>
		<dc:creator>spyked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Oct 2019 07:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;b&gt;Diana Coman&lt;/b&gt;:

&#62; this would be perhaps where some additional minutes could be shaved off I suppose

Indeed, I'd considered the "copy-paste" method suggested by MP in his comment just above, but then I still have to proofread the post and do edits on it, which'd involve either copying and pasting text around (yuck) or falling back to the web interface.

@&lt;b&gt;Nutmeg&lt;/b&gt;: I guess, except my scripts do the same thing in about 300 lines of PHP and without tying me to some particular editor and/or markup language.

@&lt;b&gt;Mircea Popescu&lt;/b&gt;:

&#62; They don't have pgdown on the kbds from your world, tho ?!

Sure, but then I have to get into all those other keybindings (say, the ctrl + arrows thing in order to jump over words), and it's all fine and dandy until at some point, for some arbitrary reason, the focus is not on the input box anymore. The point is, I don't wanna mix the text box and other elements in the same place, and for that matter I don't want to live my entire life in this &lt;a href="http://lucian.mogosanu.ro/bricks/viitorul-browser-ului-web/" rel="nofollow"&gt;shitty operating system&lt;/a&gt; if I can.

&#62; Fail either of these two tests, throw out your "Browser" wtf.

Actually, Firefox threw away multiple blog comments over the years, including on Trilema, which is when I started using w3m for this thing... which behaves similarly, except then I can save my comment in another buffer before submitting it.

Well, the good thing about the MP-WP post editor is that it also reloads the content when going back -- however, it's gonna be the content &lt;em&gt;from before I previously started editing&lt;/em&gt;, which, well...

&#62; Why can't you just copy/paste the thing once done, anyway, and save all the hacking time ?

The advantage here is that I hacked on this thing once and now I've closed the edit-submit_draft-proofread-publish loop for good. There's post previewing left, sure, but I'm supposed to be doing that in the web interface anyway, so I don't see a problem there.

The broader point however is that it's not mandatory for wp-admin functionality to occur in the web interface -- the same functionality can be  accessed directly from the command-line by means of a PHP script that calls to it.

&#62; And nothing wrong with a svg-generator for trees, much like trinque's very neat wot viewer.

I've put that on the to-do list then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<b>Diana Coman</b>:</p>
<p>&gt; this would be perhaps where some additional minutes could be shaved off I suppose</p>
<p>Indeed, I'd considered the "copy-paste" method suggested by MP in his comment just above, but then I still have to proofread the post and do edits on it, which'd involve either copying and pasting text around (yuck) or falling back to the web interface.</p>
<p>@<b>Nutmeg</b>: I guess, except my scripts do the same thing in about 300 lines of PHP and without tying me to some particular editor and/or markup language.</p>
<p>@<b>Mircea Popescu</b>:</p>
<p>&gt; They don't have pgdown on the kbds from your world, tho ?!</p>
<p>Sure, but then I have to get into all those other keybindings (say, the ctrl + arrows thing in order to jump over words), and it's all fine and dandy until at some point, for some arbitrary reason, the focus is not on the input box anymore. The point is, I don't wanna mix the text box and other elements in the same place, and for that matter I don't want to live my entire life in this <a href="http://lucian.mogosanu.ro/bricks/viitorul-browser-ului-web/" rel="nofollow">shitty operating system</a> if I can.</p>
<p>&gt; Fail either of these two tests, throw out your "Browser" wtf.</p>
<p>Actually, Firefox threw away multiple blog comments over the years, including on Trilema, which is when I started using w3m for this thing... which behaves similarly, except then I can save my comment in another buffer before submitting it.</p>
<p>Well, the good thing about the MP-WP post editor is that it also reloads the content when going back -- however, it's gonna be the content <em>from before I previously started editing</em>, which, well...</p>
<p>&gt; Why can't you just copy/paste the thing once done, anyway, and save all the hacking time ?</p>
<p>The advantage here is that I hacked on this thing once and now I've closed the edit-submit_draft-proofread-publish loop for good. There's post previewing left, sure, but I'm supposed to be doing that in the web interface anyway, so I don't see a problem there.</p>
<p>The broader point however is that it's not mandatory for wp-admin functionality to occur in the web interface -- the same functionality can be  accessed directly from the command-line by means of a PHP script that calls to it.</p>
<p>&gt; And nothing wrong with a svg-generator for trees, much like trinque's very neat wot viewer.</p>
<p>I've put that on the to-do list then.</p>
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		<title>By: Mircea Popescu</title>
		<link>http://thetarpit.org/2019/decoupling-mp-wp-post-editing-from-the-www-interface#comment-143</link>
		<dc:creator>Mircea Popescu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Oct 2019 21:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#62; I'm stuck moving my hand to the mouse and clicking around

They don't have pgdown on the kbds from your world, tho ?!

&#62; exactly when I press "save draft", then all my modifications will vanish into thin air

Wtf are you talking about, nothing whatsoever works like this. Go type a comment into Trilema box, hit page reload, discover comment is still there. Hit Send, hit back button, see comment still there. Fail either of these two tests, throw out your "Browser" wtf.

&#62; by working inside a plain text buffer instead of the admin interface.

Fwiw the vast majority of Trilema articles are produced inside plaintext buffers ; more recently as nano &lt;a href="http://trilema.com/2019/albertina-hurr/?b=article.txt&#38;e=done#select" rel="nofollow"&gt;article.txt&lt;/a&gt;.

&#62; I might be getting a bit overexcited about this

Why can't you just copy/paste the thing once done, anyway, and save all the hacking time ?

And nothing wrong with a svg-generator for trees, much like trinque's very neat wot viewer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; I'm stuck moving my hand to the mouse and clicking around</p>
<p>They don't have pgdown on the kbds from your world, tho ?!</p>
<p>&gt; exactly when I press "save draft", then all my modifications will vanish into thin air</p>
<p>Wtf are you talking about, nothing whatsoever works like this. Go type a comment into Trilema box, hit page reload, discover comment is still there. Hit Send, hit back button, see comment still there. Fail either of these two tests, throw out your "Browser" wtf.</p>
<p>&gt; by working inside a plain text buffer instead of the admin interface.</p>
<p>Fwiw the vast majority of Trilema articles are produced inside plaintext buffers ; more recently as nano <a href="http://trilema.com/2019/albertina-hurr/?b=article.txt&amp;e=done#select" rel="nofollow">article.txt</a>.</p>
<p>&gt; I might be getting a bit overexcited about this</p>
<p>Why can't you just copy/paste the thing once done, anyway, and save all the hacking time ?</p>
<p>And nothing wrong with a svg-generator for trees, much like trinque's very neat wot viewer.</p>
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		<title>By: Nutmeg</title>
		<link>http://thetarpit.org/2019/decoupling-mp-wp-post-editing-from-the-www-interface#comment-142</link>
		<dc:creator>Nutmeg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Oct 2019 15:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Diana Coman</title>
		<link>http://thetarpit.org/2019/decoupling-mp-wp-post-editing-from-the-www-interface#comment-141</link>
		<dc:creator>Diana Coman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Oct 2019 14:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahahaha, privire câșă! 

Fwiw I always edit my posts in text-mode, offline and then just upload, check (this would be perhaps where some additional minutes could be shaved off I suppose), publish. So yeah, not using much the www interface as such anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahahaha, privire câșă! </p>
<p>Fwiw I always edit my posts in text-mode, offline and then just upload, check (this would be perhaps where some additional minutes could be shaved off I suppose), publish. So yeah, not using much the www interface as such anyway.</p>
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