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	<title>Comments on: Briefly, on programming IRC bots using Common Lisp</title>
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		<title>By: Notes on Hofstadter's Coffeehouse Conversation &#171; The Tar Pit</title>
		<link>http://thetarpit.org/2020/briefly-on-programming-irc-bots-using-common-lisp#comment-2479</link>
		<dc:creator>Notes on Hofstadter's Coffeehouse Conversation &#171; The Tar Pit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2022 13:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This so-called analysis is merely substanceless form. It doesn't matter one iota how our hypothetical thinking machine looks, but it does matter what its environment is and more importantly, how it interacts with it! So take an autonomous system such as the web server as the most banal example: its environment is the network, while its inputs and outputs are data communicated over HTTP. Looking at this particular example entirely as a black box: would you say it thinks? would you say it doesn't? is it "intelligent" by any measure? Who the fuck really knows, amirite? Who's to really distinguish this dude from that other one? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This so-called analysis is merely substanceless form. It doesn't matter one iota how our hypothetical thinking machine looks, but it does matter what its environment is and more importantly, how it interacts with it! So take an autonomous system such as the web server as the most banal example: its environment is the network, while its inputs and outputs are data communicated over HTTP. Looking at this particular example entirely as a black box: would you say it thinks? would you say it doesn't? is it "intelligent" by any measure? Who the fuck really knows, amirite? Who's to really distinguish this dude from that other one? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: spyked</title>
		<link>http://thetarpit.org/2020/briefly-on-programming-irc-bots-using-common-lisp#comment-585</link>
		<dc:creator>spyked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2021 07:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; Besides your clueless posts that put your ignorance on display for the whole world to see, you did end up wasting part of your life being a busboy for a romanian gypsy peasant that thinks he's king. Hahahahaha.

Oh, so &lt;em&gt;this&lt;/em&gt; is what it was about all along, wasn't it?

Listen, you: I don't care if or how MP got you butthurt in the past, just get over it already, it's been more than a year since TMSR disbanded.

That aside, you acultured fuckwits o'er the ocean are the only ones who are showing their ignorance. Just so you know, there never existed in Romania's short history such a thing as a "gypsy peasant". Se aude acolo-n fund la doamna? No one would have a gypsy till the land, for reasons which &lt;em&gt;I&lt;/em&gt; "don't have to stretch" to explain. Similarly, kings never had "busboys", those are only a thing in the Soviet shitholes you motherfuckers so happily inhabit.

I'll &lt;a href="http://thetarpit.org/2020/adding-a-new-socket-option-to-sbcl-or-common-lisp-is-the-death-of-me#comment-581" rel="nofollow"&gt;say it once more&lt;/a&gt;, since you seem to have missed the observation that you're a nobody with access to a HTML form. And guess what: no, mentioning von Neumann in a discussion doesn't automagically make &lt;em&gt;you&lt;/em&gt; someone, nor does it lend more weight to your opinions, be they on my writing, my person or anything else. I, "literally clueless" or otherwise, sat and read and documented the piles of shit you people wrote, whereas "you"... mislead kids with empty slogans such as "be an engineer not a coder" and evil notions such as "FFI" being anything other than a well-crafted lie.

Dude, I never thought I'd say this, you're a couple orders of magnitude stupider than poor ol' Romanians, you get me? And gypsies are &lt;a href="http://thetarpit.org/2014/building-business-or-why-gypsies-are-smarter-than-romanians" rel="nofollow"&gt;smarter than the latter&lt;/a&gt;, so I'll take those over you sad lot anytime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>> Besides your clueless posts that put your ignorance on display for the whole world to see, you did end up wasting part of your life being a busboy for a romanian gypsy peasant that thinks he's king. Hahahahaha.</p>
<p>Oh, so <em>this</em> is what it was about all along, wasn't it?</p>
<p>Listen, you: I don't care if or how MP got you butthurt in the past, just get over it already, it's been more than a year since TMSR disbanded.</p>
<p>That aside, you acultured fuckwits o'er the ocean are the only ones who are showing their ignorance. Just so you know, there never existed in Romania's short history such a thing as a "gypsy peasant". Se aude acolo-n fund la doamna? No one would have a gypsy till the land, for reasons which <em>I</em> "don't have to stretch" to explain. Similarly, kings never had "busboys", those are only a thing in the Soviet shitholes you motherfuckers so happily inhabit.</p>
<p>I'll <a href="http://thetarpit.org/2020/adding-a-new-socket-option-to-sbcl-or-common-lisp-is-the-death-of-me#comment-581" rel="nofollow">say it once more</a>, since you seem to have missed the observation that you're a nobody with access to a HTML form. And guess what: no, mentioning von Neumann in a discussion doesn't automagically make <em>you</em> someone, nor does it lend more weight to your opinions, be they on my writing, my person or anything else. I, "literally clueless" or otherwise, sat and read and documented the piles of shit you people wrote, whereas "you"... mislead kids with empty slogans such as "be an engineer not a coder" and evil notions such as "FFI" being anything other than a well-crafted lie.</p>
<p>Dude, I never thought I'd say this, you're a couple orders of magnitude stupider than poor ol' Romanians, you get me? And gypsies are <a href="http://thetarpit.org/2014/building-business-or-why-gypsies-are-smarter-than-romanians" rel="nofollow">smarter than the latter</a>, so I'll take those over you sad lot anytime.</p>
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		<title>By: magicmike</title>
		<link>http://thetarpit.org/2020/briefly-on-programming-irc-bots-using-common-lisp#comment-583</link>
		<dc:creator>magicmike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2021 22:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#62; I read it because I want to find out just how much of a clue the people who wrote it had.

You're not in the position to find what better and smarter people than you did since you're literally clueless. It's like asking Scuba Steve what he thinks about von Neumann. Your opinions on clean interfaces mean zero since you've got absolutely nothing to back them up.

It's not like I have to stretch to make this argument. Besides your clueless posts that put your ignorance on display for the whole world to see, you did end up wasting part of your life being a busboy for a romanian gypsy peasant that thinks he's king. Hahahahaha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; I read it because I want to find out just how much of a clue the people who wrote it had.</p>
<p>You're not in the position to find what better and smarter people than you did since you're literally clueless. It's like asking Scuba Steve what he thinks about von Neumann. Your opinions on clean interfaces mean zero since you've got absolutely nothing to back them up.</p>
<p>It's not like I have to stretch to make this argument. Besides your clueless posts that put your ignorance on display for the whole world to see, you did end up wasting part of your life being a busboy for a romanian gypsy peasant that thinks he's king. Hahahahaha.</p>
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		<title>By: spyked</title>
		<link>http://thetarpit.org/2020/briefly-on-programming-irc-bots-using-common-lisp#comment-582</link>
		<dc:creator>spyked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2021 17:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Motherfucker, I didn't and in general I don't read code "because I wanted to get a clue", I read it because I want to find out just &lt;em&gt;how much of a clue&lt;/em&gt; the people who wrote it had. And in this particular case, instead of a clean interface to Lunix system calls, I found layers upon layers of reimplementations upon reimplementations of existing abstractions, just because... I don't know, &lt;em&gt;you&lt;/em&gt; tell me. Even better, just get the fuck lost already and take your SBCL with you, I don't need it for IRC bots nor anything else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Motherfucker, I didn't and in general I don't read code "because I wanted to get a clue", I read it because I want to find out just <em>how much of a clue</em> the people who wrote it had. And in this particular case, instead of a clean interface to Lunix system calls, I found layers upon layers of reimplementations upon reimplementations of existing abstractions, just because... I don't know, <em>you</em> tell me. Even better, just get the fuck lost already and take your SBCL with you, I don't need it for IRC bots nor anything else.</p>
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		<title>By: magicmike</title>
		<link>http://thetarpit.org/2020/briefly-on-programming-irc-bots-using-common-lisp#comment-580</link>
		<dc:creator>magicmike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2021 15:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you weren't clueless, you'd spend 1 day and write a full IRC bot in SBCL from scratch, using only built-ins and the FFI. But since you are an idiot, you're always looking how other people did it in order to get a clue.

And then, because you don't have a clue, you start going sideways into modifying SBCL internals (lol) and/or blaming shitty code for being shitty.

Get a clue, be an engineer not a coder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you weren't clueless, you'd spend 1 day and write a full IRC bot in SBCL from scratch, using only built-ins and the FFI. But since you are an idiot, you're always looking how other people did it in order to get a clue.</p>
<p>And then, because you don't have a clue, you start going sideways into modifying SBCL internals (lol) and/or blaming shitty code for being shitty.</p>
<p>Get a clue, be an engineer not a coder.</p>
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		<title>By: Adding a new socket option to SBCL; or, Common Lisp is the death of me &#171; The Tar Pit</title>
		<link>http://thetarpit.org/2020/briefly-on-programming-irc-bots-using-common-lisp#comment-383</link>
		<dc:creator>Adding a new socket option to SBCL; or, Common Lisp is the death of me &#171; The Tar Pit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2020 13:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] leaving my previous writing on a dire note, I've decided to try out rolling some cleaner shit for future reference; or at the very least I've [...]</description>
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