Comments on: C++ et alia, or: how even crappy software tends to get better with use http://thetarpit.org/2023/c-et-alia-or-how-even-crappy-software-tends-to-get-better-with-use "Now I feel like I know less about what that blog is about than I did before." Sat, 25 Apr 2026 17:36:17 +0000 http://thetarpit.org hourly 1 By: spyked http://thetarpit.org/2023/c-et-alia-or-how-even-crappy-software-tends-to-get-better-with-use#comment-4502 spyked Fri, 08 Sep 2023 19:51:05 +0000 http://thetarpit.org/?p=525#comment-4502 Heh, C++ is an awful Lisp. The first example that invariably comes to my mind is how they spent all the possible effort into making that LLVM monstrosity just to reinvent macros*. Lisp has compilation control and code manipulation designed into the language... no wonder so few people bother to use it, most programmers would immediately shoot themselves in the foot in the most awkward ways. Anyway, Worse is Better, or how did that go. *: What else is a system that allows one to manipulate ASTs whenever he wants? Heh, C++ is an awful Lisp. The first example that invariably comes to my mind is how they spent all the possible effort into making that LLVM monstrosity just to reinvent macros*. Lisp has compilation control and code manipulation designed into the language... no wonder so few people bother to use it, most programmers would immediately shoot themselves in the foot in the most awkward ways.

Anyway, Worse is Better, or how did that go.

*: What else is a system that allows one to manipulate ASTs whenever he wants?

]]> By: Cel Mihanie http://thetarpit.org/2023/c-et-alia-or-how-even-crappy-software-tends-to-get-better-with-use#comment-4501 Cel Mihanie Fri, 08 Sep 2023 13:35:40 +0000 http://thetarpit.org/?p=525#comment-4501 One other factor why programming languages tend to get better/more tolerable/less shitty over time may be Paul Graham's observation that all programming languages inevitably tend to morph into Lisp over their evolution :D One other factor why programming languages tend to get better/more tolerable/less shitty over time may be Paul Graham's observation that all programming languages inevitably tend to morph into Lisp over their evolution :D

]]> By: spyked http://thetarpit.org/2023/c-et-alia-or-how-even-crappy-software-tends-to-get-better-with-use#comment-4500 spyked Thu, 07 Sep 2023 20:16:31 +0000 http://thetarpit.org/?p=525#comment-4500 Speaking of <a href="https://timotijhof.net/posts/2023/an-internet-of-php/" rel="nofollow">which</a>: the author is trying to say that PHP is the programming language of the web, which... it is. Served to you by Wordpress (c)(tm). Speaking of which: the author is trying to say that PHP is the programming language of the web, which... it is. Served to you by Wordpress (c)(tm).

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