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	<title>Comments on: The Matrix</title>
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	<description>"Now I feel like I know less about what that blog is about than I did before."</description>
	<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2026 18:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Winter in the postmodern Soviets &#171; The Tar Pit</title>
		<link>http://thetarpit.org/2024/the-matrix#comment-7111</link>
		<dc:creator>Winter in the postmodern Soviets &#171; The Tar Pit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2026 20:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] now have "sovereigntist" and "official/liberal/pro-European" media doesn't make this any less of a totalitarian environment. The folks who run the propaganda show have realized that, given that singularities [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] now have "sovereigntist" and "official/liberal/pro-European" media doesn't make this any less of a totalitarian environment. The folks who run the propaganda show have realized that, given that singularities [...]</p>
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		<title>By: spyked</title>
		<link>http://thetarpit.org/2024/the-matrix#comment-6999</link>
		<dc:creator>spyked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2025 15:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I've been following the evadare.ro guy -- apparently "these guys" are just this one guy who's keeping a blog -- for a while now and I still think he manages to completely miss the point on the so-called Matrix: he references gnosticism, but he doesn't see the sheer fact that "getting out of the Matrix" entails first and foremost deconstructing and ultimately going outside &lt;em&gt;its discourse&lt;/em&gt;, a fact which is only possible in theory by building a whole new parallel logos, in a time when the only "system of oppression" is the exhaustion of the current logos.

But, that aside! I've read his articles and to some degree they indicate great attention to certain details which I can't seem to find anywhere else in the Romanian-speaking space. So props to him.

&lt;blockquote&gt;As for the Reacțiunea folks, there's precisely three possible paths for them. Either they become irrelevant after a while, like most such projects do; or they become big enough to become "the Matrix"; or they get absorbed into "the Matrix", like most other popular publications tend to do.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Or they continue to be a marginal affair, just like this here blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I've been following the evadare.ro guy -- apparently "these guys" are just this one guy who's keeping a blog -- for a while now and I still think he manages to completely miss the point on the so-called Matrix: he references gnosticism, but he doesn't see the sheer fact that "getting out of the Matrix" entails first and foremost deconstructing and ultimately going outside <em>its discourse</em>, a fact which is only possible in theory by building a whole new parallel logos, in a time when the only "system of oppression" is the exhaustion of the current logos.</p>
<p>But, that aside! I've read his articles and to some degree they indicate great attention to certain details which I can't seem to find anywhere else in the Romanian-speaking space. So props to him.</p>
<blockquote><p>As for the Reacțiunea folks, there's precisely three possible paths for them. Either they become irrelevant after a while, like most such projects do; or they become big enough to become "the Matrix"; or they get absorbed into "the Matrix", like most other popular publications tend to do.</p></blockquote>
<p>Or they continue to be a marginal affair, just like this here blog.</p>
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		<title>By: They Live &#171; The Tar Pit</title>
		<link>http://thetarpit.org/2024/the-matrix#comment-6327</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2025 10:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and in a deeper sense than other dystopias managed to. And also, I confess, because I enjoy the red-pilled [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and in a deeper sense than other dystopias managed to. And also, I confess, because I enjoy the red-pilled [...]</p>
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		<title>By: My Dinner with Andre &#171; The Tar Pit</title>
		<link>http://thetarpit.org/2024/the-matrix#comment-5889</link>
		<dc:creator>My Dinner with Andre &#171; The Tar Pit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2025 19:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] around a conversation on, well, life! and mainly on that old issue of perception/belief that I've beaten into a pulp on my blog thus far; otherwise put as the question of why people are so fucking stupid [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] around a conversation on, well, life! and mainly on that old issue of perception/belief that I've beaten into a pulp on my blog thus far; otherwise put as the question of why people are so fucking stupid [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Squid Game &#171; The Tar Pit</title>
		<link>http://thetarpit.org/2024/the-matrix#comment-5509</link>
		<dc:creator>Squid Game &#171; The Tar Pit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jan 2025 19:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] emerges from the existence of a fictional organization which gives regular people the chance to escape their current life for six days, and replace it with a whole different thing. This new game is not [...]</description>
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		<title>By: spyked</title>
		<link>http://thetarpit.org/2024/the-matrix#comment-5471</link>
		<dc:creator>spyked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Dec 2024 20:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; It seems the only stableish way for humans to organize is fascism of one sort of another

I happen to think (but am too lazy to sit to demonstrate at length) that the default mode of humanity is feudalism. People are by their nature unequal (or "diverse", if we were to employ an Imperial symbol), and hierarchy arises from these inequalities, i.e. they give birth to certain structures which are defined within the hierarchy and a set of environmental constraints. In practice, people in the past used to fight over plots of land -- sure, they still do, but that's beside the point; not even a decade ago, folks still believed that this generation would not get to see war --, because that's where you would grow food or harvest some other resources, or in any case, it held some value.

Nowadays land still holds value, but there's a whole bunch of other things that do, and the variety ("diversity"!) and the complexity arising between those things is bound to fuck the average man even more than "back in the day". The abundance of yore encouraged various socialisms which are either shifting towards autocracy (see the recent move by Ciolacu et al.) or are on the way to being wiped altogether. Let's wait another year or two (or maybe a couple of months?), you'll see what I mean. If this is what you mean by fascism, then I agree.

On the other hand, while I find your jumping beans metaphor entirely fit for this discussion, I'm in the tribe of those who believe that this larva has long turned into a moth and set herself on a course towards the proverbial fire. Best case, she dies of cold on the way, but either way, the unstoppable thing which you at some point called entropy, is going to get the poor animal killed. Then nature will take its course, as some other beings will consume its corpse and thrive. And if what's going on around us is any guide, I think I have an idea how this is going to play out. There's at least two possible ways ahead, and neither of them will make us happier, except maybe through a shitton of drugs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>> It seems the only stableish way for humans to organize is fascism of one sort of another</p>
<p>I happen to think (but am too lazy to sit to demonstrate at length) that the default mode of humanity is feudalism. People are by their nature unequal (or "diverse", if we were to employ an Imperial symbol), and hierarchy arises from these inequalities, i.e. they give birth to certain structures which are defined within the hierarchy and a set of environmental constraints. In practice, people in the past used to fight over plots of land -- sure, they still do, but that's beside the point; not even a decade ago, folks still believed that this generation would not get to see war --, because that's where you would grow food or harvest some other resources, or in any case, it held some value.</p>
<p>Nowadays land still holds value, but there's a whole bunch of other things that do, and the variety ("diversity"!) and the complexity arising between those things is bound to fuck the average man even more than "back in the day". The abundance of yore encouraged various socialisms which are either shifting towards autocracy (see the recent move by Ciolacu et al.) or are on the way to being wiped altogether. Let's wait another year or two (or maybe a couple of months?), you'll see what I mean. If this is what you mean by fascism, then I agree.</p>
<p>On the other hand, while I find your jumping beans metaphor entirely fit for this discussion, I'm in the tribe of those who believe that this larva has long turned into a moth and set herself on a course towards the proverbial fire. Best case, she dies of cold on the way, but either way, the unstoppable thing which you at some point called entropy, is going to get the poor animal killed. Then nature will take its course, as some other beings will consume its corpse and thrive. And if what's going on around us is any guide, I think I have an idea how this is going to play out. There's at least two possible ways ahead, and neither of them will make us happier, except maybe through a shitton of drugs.</p>
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		<title>By: Cel Mihanie</title>
		<link>http://thetarpit.org/2024/the-matrix#comment-5470</link>
		<dc:creator>Cel Mihanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Dec 2024 10:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've been thinking this for a long time. It seems the only stableish way for humans to organize is fascism of one sort of another. In other words, civilization is fascism and viceversa. Ya can't escape it. Even hermits are subject to the ultrafascism of Mother Nature.

That doesn't mean, though, that one can't push for a fascism more to one's liking. The wiser activist sees figures like Trump or Georgescu not as messiahs that are in themselves good or will do what they promised; but rather as tools to destabilize the system and open up a chance for change to occur. Which is why it's still painful when the system successfully defends itself and eliminates that chance for the time being.

Do you know about jumping beans? They're not just something invented in cartoons, they're real. Basically you have this larva that takes up residence inside a bean while it develops. The jumping is a fascinating solution to a simple problem: if the bean stays too long in direct sunlight, the larva will overheat. Thus, the larva has the reflex that when too much light hits the bean (the walls are somewhat transluscent), it will trash inside the bean and send it flying in a random direction, hence the jumping.

The fascinating bit is that even though the larva has no idea where the sun is or where the shadows are, nor can it control the direction of the jump at all, nevertheless this stochastic strategy works perfectly. If you timelapse a collection of jumping beans, you will see them closely follow the shadows exactly like in those timelapse videos of cats moving with the rays of the sun. In fact this type of stochastic strategy is used all throughout nature, including for bacteria trying to navigate to a food source even when they have no complex sensors or locomotion systems onboard.

I believe revolutions, and all meaningful political change in fact, ultimately work the same way. Nobody can predict the outcome of a revolution. It can indeed fail or backfire. They are a roll of the die. Nevertheless, if you don't roll the die you will surely get more of the same. It's better, I think, to keep rolling the die until you hit a better state (a fascism more to your liking). Then stop.

It sure worked for EU accession votes, after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I've been thinking this for a long time. It seems the only stableish way for humans to organize is fascism of one sort of another. In other words, civilization is fascism and viceversa. Ya can't escape it. Even hermits are subject to the ultrafascism of Mother Nature.</p>
<p>That doesn't mean, though, that one can't push for a fascism more to one's liking. The wiser activist sees figures like Trump or Georgescu not as messiahs that are in themselves good or will do what they promised; but rather as tools to destabilize the system and open up a chance for change to occur. Which is why it's still painful when the system successfully defends itself and eliminates that chance for the time being.</p>
<p>Do you know about jumping beans? They're not just something invented in cartoons, they're real. Basically you have this larva that takes up residence inside a bean while it develops. The jumping is a fascinating solution to a simple problem: if the bean stays too long in direct sunlight, the larva will overheat. Thus, the larva has the reflex that when too much light hits the bean (the walls are somewhat transluscent), it will trash inside the bean and send it flying in a random direction, hence the jumping.</p>
<p>The fascinating bit is that even though the larva has no idea where the sun is or where the shadows are, nor can it control the direction of the jump at all, nevertheless this stochastic strategy works perfectly. If you timelapse a collection of jumping beans, you will see them closely follow the shadows exactly like in those timelapse videos of cats moving with the rays of the sun. In fact this type of stochastic strategy is used all throughout nature, including for bacteria trying to navigate to a food source even when they have no complex sensors or locomotion systems onboard.</p>
<p>I believe revolutions, and all meaningful political change in fact, ultimately work the same way. Nobody can predict the outcome of a revolution. It can indeed fail or backfire. They are a roll of the die. Nevertheless, if you don't roll the die you will surely get more of the same. It's better, I think, to keep rolling the die until you hit a better state (a fascism more to your liking). Then stop.</p>
<p>It sure worked for EU accession votes, after all.</p>
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