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	<title>Comments on: Welcome to The Tar Pit! again.</title>
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	<description>"Now I feel like I know less about what that blog is about than I did before."</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2026 19:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: spyked</title>
		<link>http://thetarpit.org/2019/welcome-to-the-tar-pit#comment-5234</link>
		<dc:creator>spyked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Aug 2024 21:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; The epitome of web publishing technology shall for a long time remain some piece of shit written in PHP, so we might as well live with it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

... the smaller problem being that, while the world keeps moving, I'm stuck maintaining some legacy code written by some morons and hacked by some good folks from my larping days who meanwhile are off the grid. The &lt;em&gt;more pressing&lt;/em&gt; issue being that while the world does the same, this bespoke Wordpress pulls along with it a whole Linux/Apache/MySQL/PHP environment. I sure as fuck ain't going to maintain a whole LAMP distribution while my hardware specs change underneath the whole thing; and on the other hand I'm not going to go through the pains of porting MP-WP on latest PHP or whatever.

So yes, perhaps at some point I'll have to move back to text files generated from a MySQL database; and hopefully I won't have to reverse-engineer the comments mechanism, because frankly speaking, I no longer have the time nor the patience for that kind of shit.

Or maybe I'll just keep the whole thing to myself, since by now there's really no particular need to keep this log public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> The epitome of web publishing technology shall for a long time remain some piece of shit written in PHP, so we might as well live with it.</p></blockquote>
<p>... the smaller problem being that, while the world keeps moving, I'm stuck maintaining some legacy code written by some morons and hacked by some good folks from my larping days who meanwhile are off the grid. The <em>more pressing</em> issue being that while the world does the same, this bespoke Wordpress pulls along with it a whole Linux/Apache/MySQL/PHP environment. I sure as fuck ain't going to maintain a whole LAMP distribution while my hardware specs change underneath the whole thing; and on the other hand I'm not going to go through the pains of porting MP-WP on latest PHP or whatever.</p>
<p>So yes, perhaps at some point I'll have to move back to text files generated from a MySQL database; and hopefully I won't have to reverse-engineer the comments mechanism, because frankly speaking, I no longer have the time nor the patience for that kind of shit.</p>
<p>Or maybe I'll just keep the whole thing to myself, since by now there's really no particular need to keep this log public.</p>
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		<title>By: Decoupling MP-WP post editing from the WWW interface &#171; The Tar Pit</title>
		<link>http://thetarpit.org/2019/welcome-to-the-tar-pit#comment-417</link>
		<dc:creator>Decoupling MP-WP post editing from the WWW interface &#171; The Tar Pit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2020 06:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that be cool? I might be getting a bit overexcited about this, but anyway, in my transition to MP-WP I've cooked up these two scripts, mpwp-get-post.php and mpwp-update-post.php, that can be [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that be cool? I might be getting a bit overexcited about this, but anyway, in my transition to MP-WP I've cooked up these two scripts, mpwp-get-post.php and mpwp-update-post.php, that can be [...]</p>
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		<title>By: spyked</title>
		<link>http://thetarpit.org/2019/welcome-to-the-tar-pit#comment-407</link>
		<dc:creator>spyked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2020 17:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We're almost one year into this MP-WP-ian Tar Pit, so I guess this is as good a time as any to review it.

The whole framework has served me more than adequately since I installed it; and it's certainly capable of way more, both horizontally, in the weight it can take, comments, articles and so on; and vertically, in the features it provides. In fact, if there's a problem with it, it's that it provides &lt;em&gt;too much&lt;/em&gt;, and whoever thought that uploading "media", configuring the blog or hell, &lt;a href="http://thetarpit.org/2019/decoupling-mp-wp-post-editing-from-the-www-interface" rel="nofollow"&gt;posting stuff&lt;/a&gt; -- whoever thought that any of these things should be done through a web interface is seriously fucked in the head.

In short: &lt;a href="http://thetarpit.org/2016/i-wrote-a-blog" rel="nofollow"&gt;using Haskell code&lt;/a&gt; lifted off the Internet &lt;a href="http://thetarpit.org/2016/the-new-tarpit" rel="nofollow"&gt;was a bad idea&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://thetarpit.org/2016/i-wrote-a-blog" rel="nofollow"&gt;writing a Lisp blog&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://thetarpit.org/2019/thetarpit-lbs-genesis" rel="nofollow"&gt; was misguided&lt;/a&gt;; meanwhile, &lt;a href="http://lucian.mogosanu.ro/bricks/ultima-caramida/" rel="nofollow"&gt;reverting&lt;/a&gt; to Wordpress isn't that far off, but what can I do. The epitome of web publishing technology shall for a long time remain some piece of shit written in PHP, so we might as well live with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We're almost one year into this MP-WP-ian Tar Pit, so I guess this is as good a time as any to review it.</p>
<p>The whole framework has served me more than adequately since I installed it; and it's certainly capable of way more, both horizontally, in the weight it can take, comments, articles and so on; and vertically, in the features it provides. In fact, if there's a problem with it, it's that it provides <em>too much</em>, and whoever thought that uploading "media", configuring the blog or hell, <a href="http://thetarpit.org/2019/decoupling-mp-wp-post-editing-from-the-www-interface" rel="nofollow">posting stuff</a> -- whoever thought that any of these things should be done through a web interface is seriously fucked in the head.</p>
<p>In short: <a href="http://thetarpit.org/2016/i-wrote-a-blog" rel="nofollow">using Haskell code</a> lifted off the Internet <a href="http://thetarpit.org/2016/the-new-tarpit" rel="nofollow">was a bad idea</a> and <a href="http://thetarpit.org/2016/i-wrote-a-blog" rel="nofollow">writing a Lisp blog</a> <a href="http://thetarpit.org/2019/thetarpit-lbs-genesis" rel="nofollow"> was misguided</a>; meanwhile, <a href="http://lucian.mogosanu.ro/bricks/ultima-caramida/" rel="nofollow">reverting</a> to Wordpress isn't that far off, but what can I do. The epitome of web publishing technology shall for a long time remain some piece of shit written in PHP, so we might as well live with it.</p>
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		<title>By: A guide to systematically exploring the entrails of MP-WP, illustrated using some weird found in the post editor &#171; The Tar Pit</title>
		<link>http://thetarpit.org/2019/welcome-to-the-tar-pit#comment-131</link>
		<dc:creator>A guide to systematically exploring the entrails of MP-WP, illustrated using some weird found in the post editor &#171; The Tar Pit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Oct 2019 08:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] looking into it for a bit. My own investigation followed from some weird that I'd discovered while setting up my blog, which makes the purpose of this post twofold: on one hand I'm recounting some of my own adventures [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] looking into it for a bit. My own investigation followed from some weird that I'd discovered while setting up my blog, which makes the purpose of this post twofold: on one hand I'm recounting some of my own adventures [...]</p>
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		<title>By: spyked</title>
		<link>http://thetarpit.org/2019/welcome-to-the-tar-pit#comment-130</link>
		<dc:creator>spyked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Oct 2019 07:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you!

The fact that this isn't reproducible on other MP-WP installs adds to the weird and I'm going to have to investigate.

So, to explain the scenario in more detail: I'm inputting "ampersand-lt-semicolon b ampersand-gt-semicolon this is a quoted bold text ampersand-lt-semicolon slash b ampersand-gt-semicolon", saving, previewing, which gives same as your description, i.e. "left quote b right quote this is a quoted bold text left quote slash b right quote".

However, upon saving, the text in the box is also converted to "left quote b right quote this is a quoted bold text left quote slash b right quote", so if I save and preview again, this is going to yield "this is a quoted bold text" in bold.

There's a small chance I fucked up some code while playing with the importer I wrote. At least this part is easy to figure out (diff against a clean MP-WP press), I'll look into it one of these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you!</p>
<p>The fact that this isn't reproducible on other MP-WP installs adds to the weird and I'm going to have to investigate.</p>
<p>So, to explain the scenario in more detail: I'm inputting "ampersand-lt-semicolon b ampersand-gt-semicolon this is a quoted bold text ampersand-lt-semicolon slash b ampersand-gt-semicolon", saving, previewing, which gives same as your description, i.e. "left quote b right quote this is a quoted bold text left quote slash b right quote".</p>
<p>However, upon saving, the text in the box is also converted to "left quote b right quote this is a quoted bold text left quote slash b right quote", so if I save and preview again, this is going to yield "this is a quoted bold text" in bold.</p>
<p>There's a small chance I fucked up some code while playing with the importer I wrote. At least this part is easy to figure out (diff against a clean MP-WP press), I'll look into it one of these days.</p>
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		<title>By: Mircea Popescu</title>
		<link>http://thetarpit.org/2019/welcome-to-the-tar-pit#comment-129</link>
		<dc:creator>Mircea Popescu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2019 23:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It shows what you expect, i.e. the tags and the text, right? Now save and preview it again. What do you see now? No, I don't want to hear that "that's what it's supposed to do".&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I just tried this on trilema, it shows left quote b right quote this is a quoted bold text left quote slash b right quote each time. Was the behaviour you observed different then ?

But mazel tov in any case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It shows what you expect, i.e. the tags and the text, right? Now save and preview it again. What do you see now? No, I don't want to hear that "that's what it's supposed to do".</p></blockquote>
<p>I just tried this on trilema, it shows left quote b right quote this is a quoted bold text left quote slash b right quote each time. Was the behaviour you observed different then ?</p>
<p>But mazel tov in any case.</p>
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		<title>By: spyked</title>
		<link>http://thetarpit.org/2019/welcome-to-the-tar-pit#comment-3</link>
		<dc:creator>spyked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Oct 2019 07:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Testing yet another example commend.

With &lt;b&gt;bold&lt;/b&gt;. And &lt;em&gt;emphasis&lt;/em&gt;. Should these work?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Testing yet another example commend.</p>
<p>With <b>bold</b>. And <em>emphasis</em>. Should these work?</p>
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		<title>By: spyked</title>
		<link>http://thetarpit.org/2019/welcome-to-the-tar-pit#comment-2</link>
		<dc:creator>spyked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Oct 2019 15:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let's try to post a comment and see how this works. &lt;a href="http://thetarpit.org" rel="nofollow"&gt;The Tar Pit&lt;/a&gt; is muh blog. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let's try to post a comment and see how this works. <a href="http://thetarpit.org" rel="nofollow">The Tar Pit</a> is muh blog. ;)</p>
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